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laurificus at 10:50pm on 15/07/2013 under dean winchester is my favouritest, i heart sam winchester, sam's notice period, silverbullets, the epic love of sam and dean, tv-supernatural, tv-the newsroom
laurificus at 10:50pm on 15/07/2013 under dean winchester is my favouritest, i heart sam winchester, sam's notice period, silverbullets, the epic love of sam and dean, tv-supernatural, tv-the newsroomHere are some terrible things.
First, I am watching the second half of season 8 of SPN (naturally missing out much of the first half). Not only am I watching, but I am...actively enjoying it. They have a home! And they still hunt! And Dean is no longer drunken despairing Dean! He is recognisably the Dean of the earlier seasons to me. And! I am pretty sure he has lost the Batman voice, which, praise Jesus, is long overdue.
I like the Men of Letters stuff, which was a totally surprising new direction but still feels like it belongs in the SPN universe, and the plot this season is much more tied to Sam and Dean than the leviathans ever were. More to the point, Dean walks around telling his grandfather how Sam is the only family he has left and he will sacrifice anything (grandfather included) to save him. He does this apparently with no irony. Also, Sam getting a happy ending is Dean's happy ending. And Sam says utterly insane things like, "I'm sorry you can't see the light at the end of this. But if you come with me, I can take you to it." I did not believe this was a real thing. I accusedmollyamory of having a psychotic break when she told me about it, but no. It seems it is an actual thing that actually happened.
Also, even Sam not looking I am kind of over. From the earlier eps I have seen, and the things I've read on LJ, and what I know of the end of the season, I think he was just legit crazy, and couldn't fight anymore. Over the course of the series, Sam has a habit of just becoming someone new. He goes off to Stanford and builds a life where hunting never, ever comes up. He loses Dean to Hell, and turns himself into a weapon. Even after the apocalypse, and after the wall comes down, he's all about rebuilding himself, but much of that rebuilding is based on -- not pretence, exactly, but shutting out a lot of his actual feelings, or the stuff he can't deal with. He shut out Lucifer for months, until Dean was in danger. He's never opened up about how Dean not trusting him hurts. Amelia and a life of no hunting is just another extension of that, to me.
For me, the point now isn't whether Dean could've been brought back. The point is that Sam believe he couldn't. As far as Sam was concerned, it was hopeless. It's not even like he hasn't exhibited this behaviour before--as I remember it, he tried to make a deal as soon as Dean went to Hell, but when that didn't work, he just set about getting revenge. Sam will go crazy to save Dean as long as Dean's around to be saved, but once Dean's gone, it seems to me that Sam sets about trying to live in that reality. I suspect that tendency is even more pronounced, given the issues he's had with understanding what's real and what's not in the past.
Even if he'd thought there was a way, he knows that Dean selling his soul started the whole thing off in the first place. He knows that last time he tried to get vengeance for what happened to Dean, he nearly ended the world, and came just as close to destroying his relationship with Dean (from what he said at the end of Sacrifice, he doesn't even think that relationship is all the way fixed yet).
I'd add to that that he knows how Dean feels about being brought back from any situation where he should've been dead. He's never, ever responded to it well. Dean wasn't exactly a picture of mental health before he disappeared, and, again, given what he says in Sacrifice about Dean replacing him, I wouldn't be surprised if a part of him, even unconsciously, believed that he wouldn't be enough for Dean to come back to. To be honest, shutting down and running away from it all might not be what the crazy OTP shipper in me wanted, but it's probably a reasonable thing to have done, and it's not about how much he loves or needs Dean at all. It's about Sam having PTSD and probably depression and not seeing any other way to go on, and looking back on all the times he's failed and seeing it as proof that he'll just fail again.
What I'm saying is, I have taken Sam off notice. It's hard not to when he's promising Dean to take him to the light and begging him to believe in him. Or when, you know, he's willing to die, not so much to save the world, but so that he won't have to be around if Dean chooses someone else over him again.
Of course, this means Dean has to step up and stop saying ridiculous things to him, but I really don't think Dean saw Sam's revelation in Sacrifice coming, so I'm hopeful he will get better at saying nice things to Sam, rather than praising him to everyone who isn't Sam.
Aside from all that, I love the fact that earlier seasons are referenced so much. I haven't seen past 814, so I know there are some issues with continuity, but, in general, I feel this season has done a much better job of recognising the first 5 seasons of the series than seasons 6 or 7 did. To be honest, against all expectations, I am finding season 8 to be much more enjoyable than most of season 7, which had some excellent individual episodes, but overall did not hang together well, imo.
Jeremy Fucking Carver. I knew I should have trusted him. (I will not be saying this next week, when the spoilers come out. But let me have this time of happiness!)
Secondly, the first ep of season 2 of the Newsroom was actually good. I mean, I think. My expectations for that were pretty low, too, but many of the reviews seem to back me up. Not Sports Night or West Wing good, obviously. But a show I could watch because it's mostly enjoyable, rather than watching it because there are flashes of what Sorkin's capable of, and I keep hoping they'll turn into more than flashes. I dunno. But the women were far more competent, and a lot of the smugness was gone, and there appeared to be an actual overarching story. Who knows! It's Sorkin, so it could revert to horrendous by next week, but I am kind of hopeful.
Thirdly, I have to go back to work tomorrow after nearly 2 weeks (and a Barcelona trip) off. The part where you have to go back to work nearly makes the time off not worth it. Ugh.
And here is a potentially good thing. Maybe? LJ is pretty quiet, so I'm not sure how much interest there would be, but a round of Silverbullets schmoopiness seems in order. I will put out feelers soon, and if there is interest, it shall happen! Maybe just a lightning round, so it's quick and pressure free.
First, I am watching the second half of season 8 of SPN (naturally missing out much of the first half). Not only am I watching, but I am...actively enjoying it. They have a home! And they still hunt! And Dean is no longer drunken despairing Dean! He is recognisably the Dean of the earlier seasons to me. And! I am pretty sure he has lost the Batman voice, which, praise Jesus, is long overdue.
I like the Men of Letters stuff, which was a totally surprising new direction but still feels like it belongs in the SPN universe, and the plot this season is much more tied to Sam and Dean than the leviathans ever were. More to the point, Dean walks around telling his grandfather how Sam is the only family he has left and he will sacrifice anything (grandfather included) to save him. He does this apparently with no irony. Also, Sam getting a happy ending is Dean's happy ending. And Sam says utterly insane things like, "I'm sorry you can't see the light at the end of this. But if you come with me, I can take you to it." I did not believe this was a real thing. I accused
mollyamory of having a psychotic break when she told me about it, but no. It seems it is an actual thing that actually happened.Also, even Sam not looking I am kind of over. From the earlier eps I have seen, and the things I've read on LJ, and what I know of the end of the season, I think he was just legit crazy, and couldn't fight anymore. Over the course of the series, Sam has a habit of just becoming someone new. He goes off to Stanford and builds a life where hunting never, ever comes up. He loses Dean to Hell, and turns himself into a weapon. Even after the apocalypse, and after the wall comes down, he's all about rebuilding himself, but much of that rebuilding is based on -- not pretence, exactly, but shutting out a lot of his actual feelings, or the stuff he can't deal with. He shut out Lucifer for months, until Dean was in danger. He's never opened up about how Dean not trusting him hurts. Amelia and a life of no hunting is just another extension of that, to me.
For me, the point now isn't whether Dean could've been brought back. The point is that Sam believe he couldn't. As far as Sam was concerned, it was hopeless. It's not even like he hasn't exhibited this behaviour before--as I remember it, he tried to make a deal as soon as Dean went to Hell, but when that didn't work, he just set about getting revenge. Sam will go crazy to save Dean as long as Dean's around to be saved, but once Dean's gone, it seems to me that Sam sets about trying to live in that reality. I suspect that tendency is even more pronounced, given the issues he's had with understanding what's real and what's not in the past.
Even if he'd thought there was a way, he knows that Dean selling his soul started the whole thing off in the first place. He knows that last time he tried to get vengeance for what happened to Dean, he nearly ended the world, and came just as close to destroying his relationship with Dean (from what he said at the end of Sacrifice, he doesn't even think that relationship is all the way fixed yet).
I'd add to that that he knows how Dean feels about being brought back from any situation where he should've been dead. He's never, ever responded to it well. Dean wasn't exactly a picture of mental health before he disappeared, and, again, given what he says in Sacrifice about Dean replacing him, I wouldn't be surprised if a part of him, even unconsciously, believed that he wouldn't be enough for Dean to come back to. To be honest, shutting down and running away from it all might not be what the crazy OTP shipper in me wanted, but it's probably a reasonable thing to have done, and it's not about how much he loves or needs Dean at all. It's about Sam having PTSD and probably depression and not seeing any other way to go on, and looking back on all the times he's failed and seeing it as proof that he'll just fail again.
What I'm saying is, I have taken Sam off notice. It's hard not to when he's promising Dean to take him to the light and begging him to believe in him. Or when, you know, he's willing to die, not so much to save the world, but so that he won't have to be around if Dean chooses someone else over him again.
Of course, this means Dean has to step up and stop saying ridiculous things to him, but I really don't think Dean saw Sam's revelation in Sacrifice coming, so I'm hopeful he will get better at saying nice things to Sam, rather than praising him to everyone who isn't Sam.
Aside from all that, I love the fact that earlier seasons are referenced so much. I haven't seen past 814, so I know there are some issues with continuity, but, in general, I feel this season has done a much better job of recognising the first 5 seasons of the series than seasons 6 or 7 did. To be honest, against all expectations, I am finding season 8 to be much more enjoyable than most of season 7, which had some excellent individual episodes, but overall did not hang together well, imo.
Jeremy Fucking Carver. I knew I should have trusted him. (I will not be saying this next week, when the spoilers come out. But let me have this time of happiness!)
Secondly, the first ep of season 2 of the Newsroom was actually good. I mean, I think. My expectations for that were pretty low, too, but many of the reviews seem to back me up. Not Sports Night or West Wing good, obviously. But a show I could watch because it's mostly enjoyable, rather than watching it because there are flashes of what Sorkin's capable of, and I keep hoping they'll turn into more than flashes. I dunno. But the women were far more competent, and a lot of the smugness was gone, and there appeared to be an actual overarching story. Who knows! It's Sorkin, so it could revert to horrendous by next week, but I am kind of hopeful.
Thirdly, I have to go back to work tomorrow after nearly 2 weeks (and a Barcelona trip) off. The part where you have to go back to work nearly makes the time off not worth it. Ugh.
And here is a potentially good thing. Maybe? LJ is pretty quiet, so I'm not sure how much interest there would be, but a round of Silverbullets schmoopiness seems in order. I will put out feelers soon, and if there is interest, it shall happen! Maybe just a lightning round, so it's quick and pressure free.
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