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laurificus at 05:53pm on 16/05/2009 under dean winchester is my favourite, i heart sam winchester, merry is improbably awesome, the epic love of epicness, tv-supernatural
laurificus at 05:53pm on 16/05/2009 under dean winchester is my favourite, i heart sam winchester, merry is improbably awesome, the epic love of epicness, tv-supernaturalI have just a couple six things to say about SPN.
1. I could not, in any universe, have watched 4.21 and then waited for 4.22. I'm not even entirely sure I could've watched them back to back if I hadn't known it worked out ok--for versions of okay, anyway. And in my world, Sam and Dean being on the same page and clinging to each other pretty much equals okay. Dear god, 4.21 was awful. I mean, really, really awesomely done, but awful. I kept tellingmerryish that I felt like I'd been watching for 6 years, when we were, like, 20 minutes in. How did you people do it when you didn't know how 4.22 would end!
2. Sam Winchester loves Dean Winchester every bit as much as Dean Winchester loves him. There is no point in even trying to convince me otherwise, because I have seen it, and I know I'm right. If anything, he needs Dean more than Dean needs Sam (okay, probably not. But it's pretty close to a dead heat). Without him, he is totally, totally off the rails. I am very, very upset for him, and I'm not sure how he'll ever be okay again, but I do believe he will be. Because he has his Dean! Who also loves him more than anything. He just needs to save the world first. And be hugged by Dean a lot.
I really, really, really wish he hadn't killed that woman, but I sort of appreciate that the show aren't just letting him walk away from this easy--I don't believe the demon blood wasn't making him crazy, and even without that, he'd been pretty unstable since Mystery Spot, but it was still Sam. A Sam who desperately believed he was doing the right thing, but even so, it was because his worst aspects (the pride, and the arrogance) coupled with his general fucked-upedness left him with no judgment whatsoever. He's going to have to live with that, and god, I really, really hurt for him.
Though I won't deny it--I love that what pushed him over the edge was hearing that voicemail and believing that Dean had completely given up on him. (Yet another clear proof, in case any were needed, that Sam was entirely out of his mind, because we all know Dean is fundamentally incapable of ever doing that). You see? He loves him more than anything! This whole thing started because Sam lost Dean, and then finished because he believed Dean couldn't love him. It would make me very, very happy, if it weren't so heartbreaking. (Honestly, it does make me happy. It will just make me even happier when Sam gets a little less broken.)
3. Dean Winchester is my favouritest person in the whole world. I loved him with the angels, even before he knew what their game was, and I loved his phonecall to Sam. I love that what made him so angry at the start of 4.22 wasn't Sam nearly strangling him, or Sam continuing to be a monster, but Sam leaving him. One day, both of them will understand how much the other loves them. Really.
I also loved that even with that distance between them, he thought it would take 5 minutes to fix things, and that when he found out that the angels were going to lock him up, his immediate and sincere response was that Sam wouldn't go down quietly. Even then, he still had faith in him.
4. I continue to work on my Castiel not-hating, but really, if this episode was meant to make that easier, it mostly didn't. I mean, I'm glad he got over himself before the end, and that's pretty cool and so on and so forth, but if he'd stepped up, I dunno, about 6 months ago, the whole thing might've been avoided. And unlike Sam, he doesn't have the excuse of being crazy, or of really believing he was doing the right thing. He pretty much just has cowardice. Maybe next year he will win me over with his awesome, but at this point, I wouldn't be all that sorry if Lucifer set him on fire. I do still feel like I have made progress on my not-hating, though. Possibly, this just says more about how much I hated him before.
I did, otoh, really like Misha as Jimmy. Who knew he could act!
5. I love Bobby. That is all.
6. Tomerryish, who has been shamelessly taunting and mocking me for *days*, to you I say: I accept your enormous and unarguable rightness! I accept it with a good deal of satisfaction, and also, I would say, with a huge amount of joy. I will even accept your mocking, since it seems entirely justified.
I wanted it very badly, but I was sure Kripke would not pull off the uncaring angels and the absent God, because, hi, network TV show in America, but he really, really did. Right now--subject to change when I next read a spoiler that convinces me my show is ruined, and with the caveat that this show is sometimes very problematic--he is kind of my hero. Although let it be noted, I have absolutely no idea if anything that happened in 4.22 makes sense in terms of the mytharc. I would need to rewatch the whole season again to figure it out, I think. Maybe even all 4 seasons. Which I can do now without endless, terrible fear ! Because:
7. BOYS! CLINGING! YAY BOYS! DEAN CALLING HIM SAMMY! SAM SAYING HE WAS SORRY AND JUST LOOKING AT DEAN LIKE THAT! CLINGING! THEY LOVE EACH OTHER SO MUCH!
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In other news, if anyone has any good SGA recs, could you maybe share? I might, perhaps, have turned to John/Rodney to escape the SPN fear. Something with happy endings is pretty much all I need. If there is banter and schmoop and maybe some pining, however, I wouldn't say no.
1. I could not, in any universe, have watched 4.21 and then waited for 4.22. I'm not even entirely sure I could've watched them back to back if I hadn't known it worked out ok--for versions of okay, anyway. And in my world, Sam and Dean being on the same page and clinging to each other pretty much equals okay. Dear god, 4.21 was awful. I mean, really, really awesomely done, but awful. I kept telling
merryish that I felt like I'd been watching for 6 years, when we were, like, 20 minutes in. How did you people do it when you didn't know how 4.22 would end! 2. Sam Winchester loves Dean Winchester every bit as much as Dean Winchester loves him. There is no point in even trying to convince me otherwise, because I have seen it, and I know I'm right. If anything, he needs Dean more than Dean needs Sam (okay, probably not. But it's pretty close to a dead heat). Without him, he is totally, totally off the rails. I am very, very upset for him, and I'm not sure how he'll ever be okay again, but I do believe he will be. Because he has his Dean! Who also loves him more than anything. He just needs to save the world first. And be hugged by Dean a lot.
I really, really, really wish he hadn't killed that woman, but I sort of appreciate that the show aren't just letting him walk away from this easy--I don't believe the demon blood wasn't making him crazy, and even without that, he'd been pretty unstable since Mystery Spot, but it was still Sam. A Sam who desperately believed he was doing the right thing, but even so, it was because his worst aspects (the pride, and the arrogance) coupled with his general fucked-upedness left him with no judgment whatsoever. He's going to have to live with that, and god, I really, really hurt for him.
Though I won't deny it--I love that what pushed him over the edge was hearing that voicemail and believing that Dean had completely given up on him. (Yet another clear proof, in case any were needed, that Sam was entirely out of his mind, because we all know Dean is fundamentally incapable of ever doing that). You see? He loves him more than anything! This whole thing started because Sam lost Dean, and then finished because he believed Dean couldn't love him. It would make me very, very happy, if it weren't so heartbreaking. (Honestly, it does make me happy. It will just make me even happier when Sam gets a little less broken.)
3. Dean Winchester is my favouritest person in the whole world. I loved him with the angels, even before he knew what their game was, and I loved his phonecall to Sam. I love that what made him so angry at the start of 4.22 wasn't Sam nearly strangling him, or Sam continuing to be a monster, but Sam leaving him. One day, both of them will understand how much the other loves them. Really.
I also loved that even with that distance between them, he thought it would take 5 minutes to fix things, and that when he found out that the angels were going to lock him up, his immediate and sincere response was that Sam wouldn't go down quietly. Even then, he still had faith in him.
4. I continue to work on my Castiel not-hating, but really, if this episode was meant to make that easier, it mostly didn't. I mean, I'm glad he got over himself before the end, and that's pretty cool and so on and so forth, but if he'd stepped up, I dunno, about 6 months ago, the whole thing might've been avoided. And unlike Sam, he doesn't have the excuse of being crazy, or of really believing he was doing the right thing. He pretty much just has cowardice. Maybe next year he will win me over with his awesome, but at this point, I wouldn't be all that sorry if Lucifer set him on fire. I do still feel like I have made progress on my not-hating, though. Possibly, this just says more about how much I hated him before.
I did, otoh, really like Misha as Jimmy. Who knew he could act!
5. I love Bobby. That is all.
6. To
merryish, who has been shamelessly taunting and mocking me for *days*, to you I say: I accept your enormous and unarguable rightness! I accept it with a good deal of satisfaction, and also, I would say, with a huge amount of joy. I will even accept your mocking, since it seems entirely justified.I wanted it very badly, but I was sure Kripke would not pull off the uncaring angels and the absent God, because, hi, network TV show in America, but he really, really did. Right now--subject to change when I next read a spoiler that convinces me my show is ruined, and with the caveat that this show is sometimes very problematic--he is kind of my hero. Although let it be noted, I have absolutely no idea if anything that happened in 4.22 makes sense in terms of the mytharc. I would need to rewatch the whole season again to figure it out, I think. Maybe even all 4 seasons. Which I can do now without endless, terrible fear ! Because:
7. BOYS! CLINGING! YAY BOYS! DEAN CALLING HIM SAMMY! SAM SAYING HE WAS SORRY AND JUST LOOKING AT DEAN LIKE THAT! CLINGING! THEY LOVE EACH OTHER SO MUCH!
***
In other news, if anyone has any good SGA recs, could you maybe share? I might, perhaps, have turned to John/Rodney to escape the SPN fear. Something with happy endings is pretty much all I need. If there is banter and schmoop and maybe some pining, however, I wouldn't say no.
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