posted by
laurificus at 04:53pm on 18/04/2009 under j2, life, merry is improbably awesome, supernatural
So, everyone has already seen this J2 thing where they admit to working out together, and watching football together, and cooking steaks together, right? All of this is awesome, but clearly, the best bit is Jared saying they're like brothers, because adorable, and Jared explaining that Hollywood is, "Full of scoundrels," because it makes me laugh. I didn't think anyone actually used that word in a non-ironic way, anymore.
However, I am not posting to tell you about this. I am posting to make a note of my progress on the Castiel rehabilitation front. I am working on not hating him! So far, using a complicated method I explained to Merry the other day while I was inexplicably insane, he has managed to achieve a score of 20 awesome points (I do feel I was being generous, and I also think he should lose them all for 4.16, but
merryish wasn't having it.) And then she explained something to me. It briefly punctured my hate.
M. He is kind of hapless, for an Angel of the Lord.
M. it adds to his adorability.
MLike
L: hapless i can kind of work with
L: actually, it does make me like him a little more
M: You can sort of imagine Sam and Dean having to give him lessons in, I dunno
M: hair-brushing.
L: it's when they try to sell him as crazy competent angel dude that it falls apart for me
M: awww, no
M: he's totally sitting at the back of the Angel class
M: clearly all the other angels think he's a loser
M: what with liking Dean and wandering around asking questions
M: and not wanting to kill humans and whatnot
L: and following uriel's stupid plan
M: right!
L: okay, that I can work with
L: well, kind of
L: i'm not sure we can ever get around 4.16
M: like, say, if Castiel fell
M: He'd be the guy giving HORRIBLE advice
to sad people
M: Sam and Dean would have to take him aside and say, "No, Cas, telling people who've slept with the wrong guy that they need to be washed in the blood of the lamb... not cool."
L: Hmm
L: hapless Castiel is really sort of cute
L: i am not convinced you are seeing this entirely as the show would like you to
L: but your way is better
M: pffft, who cares about how THEY want me to see him
M: though I am not convinced I"m that far off!
L: although, come to think about it, there is something about the way he says, "Uriel is the funniest angel in the garison," that always makes me laugh
M: Yes!
M: hapless!
M: and also
M: going back to the season premiere
M: the way he wandered about making Dean's eardrums bleed
M: because he couldn't figure out how to talk to him
M: and then he was like, "...oops."
L: okay
L: really
L: hilarious
L: i have never considered it in quite those terms before
L: *dies laughing*
I make no promises, obviously, and I don't think I'm anywhere near liking him, but maybe I might not want physical harm to befall him every time he appears. Maybe.
***
I had a very, very, very earnest discussion last night about The Apprentice. I...do not entirely know why, or what it was I had to understand, but I did insist that I had to know something. S. and M. were like, "You are wasted," and I was like, "No! I just want to know! Just explain it to me!" If they did explain it, I do not remember. Seriously, I am going back to beer. If I ever drink again, that is.
The problem now is that I am supposed to be going out for cocktails tonight for a friend's birthday, and I might, perhaps, be a little hungover. Ugh. Maybe they will do cool non-alcoholic ones.
***
However, I am not posting to tell you about this. I am posting to make a note of my progress on the Castiel rehabilitation front. I am working on not hating him! So far, using a complicated method I explained to Merry the other day while I was inexplicably insane, he has managed to achieve a score of 20 awesome points (I do feel I was being generous, and I also think he should lose them all for 4.16, but
M. He is kind of hapless, for an Angel of the Lord.
M. it adds to his adorability.
MLike
L: hapless i can kind of work with
L: actually, it does make me like him a little more
M: You can sort of imagine Sam and Dean having to give him lessons in, I dunno
M: hair-brushing.
L: it's when they try to sell him as crazy competent angel dude that it falls apart for me
M: awww, no
M: he's totally sitting at the back of the Angel class
M: clearly all the other angels think he's a loser
M: what with liking Dean and wandering around asking questions
M: and not wanting to kill humans and whatnot
L: and following uriel's stupid plan
M: right!
L: okay, that I can work with
L: well, kind of
L: i'm not sure we can ever get around 4.16
M: like, say, if Castiel fell
M: He'd be the guy giving HORRIBLE advice
to sad people
M: Sam and Dean would have to take him aside and say, "No, Cas, telling people who've slept with the wrong guy that they need to be washed in the blood of the lamb... not cool."
L: Hmm
L: hapless Castiel is really sort of cute
L: i am not convinced you are seeing this entirely as the show would like you to
L: but your way is better
M: pffft, who cares about how THEY want me to see him
M: though I am not convinced I"m that far off!
L: although, come to think about it, there is something about the way he says, "Uriel is the funniest angel in the garison," that always makes me laugh
M: Yes!
M: hapless!
M: and also
M: going back to the season premiere
M: the way he wandered about making Dean's eardrums bleed
M: because he couldn't figure out how to talk to him
M: and then he was like, "...oops."
L: okay
L: really
L: hilarious
L: i have never considered it in quite those terms before
L: *dies laughing*
I make no promises, obviously, and I don't think I'm anywhere near liking him, but maybe I might not want physical harm to befall him every time he appears. Maybe.
***
I had a very, very, very earnest discussion last night about The Apprentice. I...do not entirely know why, or what it was I had to understand, but I did insist that I had to know something. S. and M. were like, "You are wasted," and I was like, "No! I just want to know! Just explain it to me!" If they did explain it, I do not remember. Seriously, I am going back to beer. If I ever drink again, that is.
The problem now is that I am supposed to be going out for cocktails tonight for a friend's birthday, and I might, perhaps, be a little hungover. Ugh. Maybe they will do cool non-alcoholic ones.
***
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*thinks*
No, I still hate him. Mostly because it is CLEAR that the show doesn't think he's a dumbass, and it wants me to CARE about him in ways that I really really don't.
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I also think I'm letting my irritation with fandom affect everything, because honestly, he hasn't actually done much on the show. He generally wanders in, is vaguely useless and/or stupid, and then goes away again. It's fandom that's making him the most important thing ever. (I reserve the right to change my mind the first time I see him again in the new eps. I might only be able to say all this while not watching him.)
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I also think part of the problem is that I'm supposed to care about him and his arc, but they didn't manage to make me care and then they cut his arc off at the knees by showing the lack of consequences of Uriel's betrayal. I mean, unless we're supposed to read Anna as the hand of divine retribution for siding with Lucifer, there were no consequences of Uriel's fall, and Anna's still wandering around out there with her powers - sure, she's wanted, but there's no indication that the other angels actually are gunning for her. She didn't seem too concerned, anyway. So why am I supposed to worry that Castiel is going to fall?
I know you know all this, but I feel like my rage is totally supported by poor execution in canon. As with so many things on SPN, it's a case of interesting ideas and poor execution.
We'll see how the season plays out. Maybe it will all come together in a way that will make me completely wrong in my irritation.